no problems with that but then u should be very sure they can be trusted since they control the city then.

 

Hum move to another city. Well if we gonna move to another city with shuttle maybe should considering moving to new planet i love tat and all and u can always find a fight with some mob. ( uh oh hang on giant krayt chasing me :) opps kd dizzy swoop gets blown up one dead wookiee well now that fight is done. and im KFA = killed for awhile :)
brings up the thought again about moving to another planet maybe time to explore moving to a new planet as don't really want to move to a city that has contorl have to say i like the idea of having things placed and then moved if they not in the right place time to do some reaserch again to c how many planets have shuttles :) and a new location may be something to spice up life since looks like alot of memers have left game :( and no telling when house will go poof. yea de formerly known as PUC has been my home since i started playing and would be sad to leave thinks about moving 1300 items again starts laughing once again. (may not laugh to often but got to laugh when thinking about moving the items and personally i don't mind i always said i liked a challenge and to say the least is one awesome challenge :) pauses to clone goes looking on lok runs into a giant kilmo same thing happens kd dizzy blown up swoop and the hide of a wookiee plattered all over lok lol. finishes train of thought while KFA. if me move lets start fresh get a nice flat spot plan out city get things how we like them setup to do things right we all sit down and discuss things as we have lots a few members think its time to plan out our future and take it one step at a time so we won't have shuttle maybe a long ride but i say it maybe worth it to start fresh if we gonna move to another city lets just start over and try from there give it a shot, as i would rather have to fly ride to new spot and have our own city then move in to another city.
On that note well say peace TCB looking for that bottle of jack. yes there is no answer in the bottom of that bottle. Plays 2 songs over and over " Without you and other song to remain a mystery both off red white and crue.
Gonna log on now or atleast try something happened for some reason not able to log on:( will vote later

Hiya all.

Well, I've not voted on this issue, as i'm undecided. I guess we all have a strong affinity for DE. My first and only home in SWG. I have lots of houses and lots of stuff here, and it would be SUCH a pain to move - especially the shuttle goes and THEN we move - And i DO love Tattoine.

Saying that, I don't really like any of the other towns on Tat, so would be aprehensive about joining one of them. Most towns across the galaxy are looking quite rundown and tired these days - a sorry sight compared to a few small months ago.

My vote for location would be either Naboo (lovely houses) - possible Seaview as I think several guildee know people there? - ; or dantooine (can you live there?).  Somewhere with interesting flora and fauna about, and things to wander away from home to kill easily.

Wherever we go, I'd want our council members to have power of shape for the town and feel. I gotta have my prime-estate location in the right neighbourhood.  I like stingrays idea of starting afresh somewhere, but then no shuttle = long ride = I'd probably spend my time in a 2nd home somewhere more transporable. Also no shuttle will mean NO business for all the vendors in the mall, which is bread+butter for a lot of our people.

Having mulled it over while writing this, my vote is to find one or two other guilds and arrange for us ALL to move to a new plot on a new planet and have a controlled mega-city. Say a town centre with only amenities allowed, then 4 districts North South East and West, one for each guild with a strick plot etiquette. ie rows of houses adhered to, medium and small in seperate rows etc.

This way we get a new city feel that we 'belong' to as we helped build it. AND we get a shuttle (/grin) AND we get an injection of new people in town to chat to and get drunk over.

Over to the rest of you

Love Zach.

you could come to my city in Rori, I will even be glad with einia as major xD

Hello again.

just want to say a few more things.

i'm posting this as just a other member and not as your guidleader or as council members.

In my opinion its not a matter of "IF" we lose the rather a matter of when. As Zach pointed out more and more citys are looking like ghost towns,due to long time players leaveing for what ever reason. This problem isn't only effecting us, ask any guild most have the same problem.

So far the problem isn't causeing problems for us,since we been able to keep the citizens to 55 by any means we could find. We had a old member who changed servers come online and place a house (thx lizy) We got help form outside our own guild (thx hestia/grace from ORR and lawretta) we been paying the maintance of Bumbleboo,marki and exectionist houses so they won't disapear and had a member who took a second char create a few fake ppl placed houseing and maintance then deleted them and made a new char.. All this has kept us the City status. Needless to say this isn't the way a city should fuction and is costing money.

When we lose rank, the shuttle is only the most visible change that will happen. We also lose trainers,decorations and size what will probebly result in some structures being outside of the (rank 3 )township, also no more specialization like the current improved job market.And as Zach already said the shuttle will hurt the mall there will actualy be litte use for it anymore since ppl want to shop were they can get to and not swoop 2k for it (well some ppl anyway).Also suspect some members will place there main house somewere closer to a shuttle.

Starting somewere new with only KS is not a realistic option, look around most large towns have 2 or more guild ( i know not all of them) Pampa has about 5 guilds,Amber used to have 3 guilds,Mos krayt has 2 (i think). Starting new with some other guild is a option if u can find guild willing to move,what is unlikely since moveing a big hassle couldn't find a guild to come to DE either.Most guild i know are happy were they are the big ones and most of the small ones even if the leadership thinks it a good idea the members don't like the idea (what is understandable). So think it unlikely well be able to start fresh with a few other guild.

Moveing to an other city,with a shuttleport a settled town has its pro's and con's but is a realistic option,Placeing will be a problem since the city most likely already has its own layout and plans,City leadership is a otherthing that will be a issue since they most likely have a mayor of there own.probably more but can't think of any right now. But on the other had its has some cons to we won't have to start over new and build form scratch since it will take awile to get city status again if ever.Artisans and ppl with vendor can move there vendors to the mall of the other city and by doing so increaseing the nr of vendors there what would likely increase the nr ppl comeing to buy stuff.a shuttleport and all the facilitys we have now and are accustomed to, probably can have facilitys of our own that are player owned like our own cantina and medical if that is preferable. Basicly keep the same lvl of luxery were are used to. If the other city has a favourble location we could finaly get a faction base since i know some members would like that specialy with the upcomming "TEF and GCW" update. With us joining a already city 55 citizens it would likely grow to 85 becoming a metropolis by so gaining a more features that will become available. and if we get along good with the other guid(s) joined hunts and events is also a option.

But for all this i'm still unsure i live in (Pink cove) Dune edge all my infinitly life and the though of leavein the place i lived for almost 500 days pains me. But it doesn't hurt so much as i it does when i walk trough DE and look at the abandon house i know arn't supposed to be there and at the empty spaces were houses used to be. I won't say being as big (95members)as we were was a good thing because i don't believe that, but seeing the city as it now stands is paining.There were good and ambitous plans about remodeling the city (what has been delays with the option of other guild coming to DE what is probably not going to happen) to make it look healthy again,but thats just it, it would look healty with out being it.

I'm don't know if its a good idea,since i don't know what the future brings could be the best thing for KS could be the worst thing only time will tell if we do. But personaly i think its worth the risk and frankly see it as our only current option. Someting needs to be done and done rather quickly. i have yet to meet with the council members so i do not know our offical position on this matter that why i wrote this all just as a Pround member of KS and Citizens of Dune Edge.

Alas.

There are some defeats more triumpant than victories

Michel de montainge

 

I'm still undecided - not being an artisan anymore (and having never had vendors) I guess I don't really appreciate the impact the shuttleport has on the mall... but for the rest of us, I was here before we had a 'port, and no-one ever really minded swooping to Amber...

I love DE and KS, been here for all my SWG life, and there's a lot of history here (could we have a hall of memories or something? Maybe little statues/pics of ex-members? Just a thought ) - would be hard to move. Having a 'port or not doesn't particularly bother me. And there certainly are more non-KS people around now, which gives a nicer feeling of not being cut off from the world. But I think the general feeling is right, that it may be time to find new pastures in order to keep everyone, if not completely happy, then at least content... Love the idea of a quadrant-based city with a proper centre and specific guild areas too... do we know that any of these other smaller guilds who have the same problem are having this debate? It's always going to be hard for anyone to move, but it's looking like we may not all have that choice, and may be forced to work together... and hey, that's no bad thing.

Wow, I should really never write these 'stream of consciousness' posts - they never make sense!!! Ok, I've read it all back, and I'll stick my vote in for one big uber-city with other guilds, wherever that may be... oh, there's no voting option for that

Mike

Joining with Amber might not be a bad idea...

It's not far for us to move so not as much hassle with shifting stuff and having to wait for shuttles/loading times etc.

We could also probably just put all the KS houses etc in one area and help build our own district as well as helping Amber build their city.

And if we're joining with another guild of longtime players, then maybe we stand a better chance of keeping people playing for longer and so avoiding this trouble again.

My hat's in the let's move to Amber ring.

Well.. not that im gonna stay for long in this game but.. Hey, That place has been my home for like a year now.. and since there wasnt any "I dunno" or "My vote shouldnt even count" option in there, i really have to vote for an... uhm..  "NO!!" But.. like i said, my vote shouldnt even count.

(Edited due to a error in my spelling )

-- Edited by Antiara Elfwood at 13:40, 2005-02-08

Hello all.

Well the question now is offical.

Log on to the game and cast your vote (useing ingame voting since i still think some ppl don't come and look at out nice little forum :( .

The votes is on if u would like us to move to Amber ridge or not.

 

Cya soon .

Don't forget to vote

greetings Alas

 

hello everyone .

 

well we all know how this ended.

greetings alas.